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2002 Innis Arden Community Survey
328 of 538 shareholders responded

 1a. How important to you is each of the following about living in Innis Arden?
1=not important; 2=somewhat important; 3=important; 4=very important; 5=extremely important

 

Average

N/A (no answer)

not important

somewhat important

important

very important

extremely important

Community activities

2.54

12

48

114

102

40

12

Pool

3.07

9

84

43

42

68

82

Tennis courts & playground

2.8

11

64

75

72

61

45

Protective covenants

4.13

10

8

26

55

57

172

Reserves

3.72

11

13

36

84

79

105

View of Sound and mountains

4.29

4

13

21

34

47

209

1b. What else do you find important not listed above? (below)

2. How important to you is it that Innis Arden sponsors the following?
1=not important; 2=somewhat important; 3=important; 4=very important; 5=extremely important

Average

N/A(no answer)

not important

somewhat important

important

very important

extremely important

Bulletin

3.59

6

2

38

110

113

59

Family Activities

2.63

12

50

93

107

55

11

Children’s Activities

2.61

15

61

82

103

52

15

Athletic Activities

2.47

21

73

96

82

32

24

Interest Groups

2.17

20

84

122

72

25

5

Community Gatherings

2.65

8

44

102

106

59

9

Block Parties

2.22

21

87

106

79

28

7

Volunteering

2.73

25

44

77

115

50

17

Communication (phone tree)

2.65

22

48

97

94

47

20

Web site

2.57

20

65

90

81

55

17


3. What should be done with the
Clubhouse?

4. How important to you is it to improve access to the beach at the mouth of Boeing Creek?

No answer
Maintain as is
Build a new Clubhouse
Make major improvements
Make minor improvements

16
112
36
62
102

No answer
Not important
Somewhat important
Important
Very important
Extremely important

7
134
67
61
36
23

5. How important to you is it to develop the following in the Reserves?
1=not important; 2=somewhat important; 3=important; 4=very important; 5=extremely important

 

Average

N/A
(no answer)

not important

somewhat important

important

very important

extremely important

Play area for children

1.75

15

185

56

43

22

7

Trails for walking

3.1

11

37

53

114

68

45

Wildlife habitat preservation

3.2

13

37

64

87

58

69

Lowered canopy for views

3.2

17

63

48

58

38

104

View corridors

3.2

22

59

51

61

45

90

Nature trail signage

1.9

19

144

88

47

24

6

Community educational activities

2.1

16

105

107

73

20

7

Tree protection

2.7

13

73

87

68

45

42


6. What maintenance expenditures within our Reserves should be paid for through your dues?

Trails and their maintenance
Control/removal of invasive species
Maintenance of stream banks to reduce erosion
Re-vegetation of areas lacking significant plant cover
Maintaining trees (pruning, removal of dead/diseased wood, etc)

209
151
185
119
173

7.  Our budget for 2002 is $129,056.  Of that approximately 60% are fixed costs, leaving 40% (about $52,000) for discretionary expenditures.  How would you allocate your discretionary dues among the following? (Should total 100 points. Data entry invalidated those answers that didn’t total 100.)


Restore Sound/mountain view obstructed by the Reserves while preserving some significant trees
Improve the Clubhouse
Maintain the Reserves
Improve the playfield
Beautify the entrances (for example, lights, signage, plantings)

Average
31.14

22.00
23.90   
10.80
12.16

100.00  

8. Regarding views, how important to you are the following?
1=not important; 2=somewhat important; 3=important; 4=very important; 5=extremely important

 

Average

N/A(no answer)

not important

somewhat important

important

very important

extremely important

Sound and mountain view

4.12

12

24

21

39

40

192

Combination of trees and Sound and mountain view

3.22

26

44

58

66

55

79

View of trees

2.33

35

105

75

52

33

28

9. When you bought your house, did you have Sound and/or mountain view?  
2 N/A     264  Yes    62  No

If no, do you believe your house has some potential for a view?
20  Yes    43  No

            If both of your answers are no, please skip to question 13.

(7 responses, which were ‘no’ to the first question and ‘no’ to the second question, were invalidated for Q10-Q12)

10. How is your view now?

N/A
Better
About the same
Less
No longer have a view

47
28
118
120
15

11. Is your Sound and/or mountain view obstructed by trees in a Reserve area?
58 N/A  137 Yes  133 No

If yes: (7 responses, which were ‘no’ to this question, were invalidated for Q11)

  • If it were possible, would you like to have a view?   105 Yes    10  No
  • Would you like some trees preserved even if they were in your view?   71 Yes     53  No
  • Would you prefer to leave the trees as they are?   25  Yes     97  No

12. Is your Sound and/or mountain view obstructed by the tree(s) of a neighbor?
61 N/A  184  Yes    83 No

If yes, would you like a view?   202 N/A 112 Yes     14 No

If yes: (4 responses, which were ‘no’ to this question, were invalidated for Q12)

How have you tried to resolve this issue? (please select all that apply)

  • 98         I contacted the neighbor for action and:     30  it worked    60  it didn’t work
  • 50         Offered to do the work myself and:            19  it worked    26  it didn’t work
  • 52         Offered to help financially and:                 17  it worked    33  it didn’t work
  • 21         By legal action                                       5  it worked    11  it didn’t work
  • 54         Didn’t do anything
  • Has this issue gone to court?                                       22  Yes    86   No
  • Has the special master ruled on these trees previously?    27  Yes    64   No

13. If any Sound and/or mountain view restoration could be done in the Reserves, how should it be paid for?

N/A
By the Board through your dues
By those homeowners who benefit
Combination of dues and homeowners who benefit

12
33
144
139

14. Do you think resolving the “view” issue would improve relationships among neighbors?  
44 N/A    221 Yes    63  No

If yes, how do you think the view issue could be resolved: (7 responses which were ‘no’ were invalidated for remaining questions in Q14)

Board Action
Court Action
Revive the Special Master procedure
Re-write the view covenant
Institute binding arbitration

103
23
35
72
78


15. Each month the Bulletin is posted on our Web site: www.innisarden.com. It would save dues money if residents were willing to read the Bulletin from the Web site rather than having the Bulletin mailed to them. Would you be willing to use the Web site for this purpose?  
18 N/A    179  Yes    131 No

16. How important is it to you that the Board initiate strategies to control traffic speed on our streets?

17. What are the best ways to control traffic speed?

N/A
Not important     
Somewhat important
Important        
Very important   
Extremely important

2
38
58
65
77
88

Stop signs
Speed limit signs
Roundabouts
Speed bumps

159
96
76
159

18. Do you/your family regularly walk, jog or bicycle in Innis Arden?   
6 N/A    265 Yes    57  No

19. Over all, how safe do you think Innis Arden streets are for walking, jogging and bicycling?

N/A
Completely safe
Somewhat safe
Unsafe
No opinion

8
27
196
90
7

20. Do you favor adding sidewalks or compacted gravel paths to some streets in Innis Arden to improve pedestrian safety?
15 N/A    181  Yes    132  No

 If yes, would you be willing to be assessed by the City for the expense involved?
137   Yes      40  No

(70 responses which were ‘no’ to the first question were invalidated for the second question. This is a significant number and had they not been invalidated, the results would have been: 137   Yes     110 No)

21. How likely are you to participate in a Block Watch program in Innis Arden?

22. In case of emergency or to promote safety, how likely are you to participate in a telephone or email tree?

N/A
Definitely yes
Probably
Might or might not
Probably not
Definitely not

10
108
109
53
42
6

N/A
Definitely yes
Probably
Might or might not
Probably not
Definitely not

9
123
107
48
32
9

23. The Innis Arden covenants are
over 50 years old. The Club attorney has recommended that they be updated. Would you vote for or against having the covenants reviewed and revised?

24. How likely would you be to advertise in an “Innis Arden Yellow Pages” telephone book?

N/A
For revision
Against revision

45
188
95

N/A
Definitely yes
Probably
Might or might not
Probably not
Definitely not

5
18
16
49
103
137


Q1b What else do you find important not listed above?

Speed bumps to slow traffic.

Maintaining property value, Privacy - Blending VIEW & GREEN - Allowing Renovation.

Traffic safety - pedestrian, bicycle, pets.

Take care of entrance - flower beds etc.

Safe walking.

Traffic safety; crime prevention; create/preserve solar energy.

That neighbors respect the right of adjoining properties to have a view without being encumbered by trees that clearly violate covenants.

Cutting all vegetation back to lot line to provide Auto and pedestrian safety.

Schools - very important.

Replacing the ugly Jersey barriers North of 167th on I.A. Way. Boring Creek Trail and the bleach! (Is that included in the reserves?)

Owners piling yard debris on the back of their properties, attracting mountain beavers and other rodents.

Safe streets, quiet.

Combined view of mountains and trees.

Quiet.

Safety, maintain property values, privacy, large lot size.

Sense of community, people know each other & look out for each other. Families want to live here.

I think cars should be garaged & boats trailers etc. should be out of sight - for 25yrs my neighbor has not compiled.

Through traffic & speeding traffic - extremely important.

At dawn trees blocking views - or at least top them.

View covenant enforcement #5.

Vehicle traffic.

Good neighbor relations.

Enforcing covenants, i.e. yard maintenance, oversized vacation vehicles, safety.

Traffic control.

Age - a determining factor, as well as condition.

General amenity, nearby stream and woods.

Traffic.

Use lot 1 survey for response to lot 2. I pay dues on both properties so am entitled to two separate counting!

I.A. provides a rural oasis in the middle of an urban world!! As a quality community, making it attractive for diverse reasons to want to like here are all very important.

See IA facts on map side of IA map and covenants #6. 52 acres of private parks. Please go back to referring to them as parks as was in the original intent & wording as to its use for parks, bridle trails, play grounds & other purposes. Let's have a say

"Sense of Community."

Side walks!

Side walks!

Ability to walk neighborhood - while I am not in favor of sidewalks. I am in favor of a paved shoulder to protect people who walk the neighborhood.

A harmonious community governed by reason and caring.

Safety in our neighborhood.

Community help, big lots, little traffic.

Security.

Nice neighbors. (We have them!)

A community with the point of view that supports and respects and enforces the covenants - that is the law - not always fighting about it and caving in to contrary interests.

Improve traffic safety (extremely very important).

People putting value in living in IA. Not everyone wants or must have a view, they know this when choosing their home.

Nothing covered by the "Club".

Enforcing tree covenant.

Quiet dead end streets.

Comments or suggestions

I think you should of asked these questions, estimated costs of improvements upon voted agreement, and then charged the neighborhood your 40% extra. The dues amendment, I thought was to make everyone pay dues and support community politics. Obviously, your idea of Democracy is quite different then mine.

We need Sidewalks.

Thank you for all your time and effort.

Some of these questions were difficult to answer because the answers I would have selected were not listed. also, some of the questions were poorly defined such as in #23 in which it is difficult to know if you are for or against revisions without knowing anything about what revisions are proposed.

Traffic safety, pedestrian improvements, maintain reserves adequately, leave wooded areas intact. Keep a usable clubhouse (not too fancy, but functional). Thanks for asking.

Fill & add pipes to ditches on main roads.

Traffic, speed, reserves/views, parking - not addressed in this survey. King county taxes the "You know what" out of my property - yet the view deteriorates and we must live and comply with their regulations, let alone our own. A formidable task!

Review speed limits - 25 MPH is much too slow for many streets. Advise in monthly bulletin - that joggers, walkers, etc. stay off the road way, with further advice that they do not have "right of way" when on the road.

Why isn't pool membership included in dues payment? Please improve access to beach at 17th Avenue NW reserve.

People move into this neighborhood because there are covenants in place that protect views and property values. Residents of Innis Arden are not maintaining their trees and are not adhering to the covenants.

Innis Arden Board members should run for election as volunteers willing to serve the community, and have no personnel agendas. Board members are not legislators; they are fiduciaries holding legal title to the Reserves for the benefit of all lot owners and to treat all beneficiaries (lot owners) impartially, and to have no adverse interest such as serving one or more of their beneficiaries.

I believe it is imperative that an expert in hydrology be hired to survey all the reserve areas. The sloughing of land at the bottom of the ravines is increasing - whole large trees have dropped to the beach - including their valuable root structure.

Neighbors' trees which block solar energy in IA #3 should become subject for discussion/arbitration. Utilization/preservation of this resource is future planning! Also, good stewardship. Dues should be on a sliding scale for disabled & elderly on minimum fixed incomes. New projects should be VOLUNTARY with funding raised by those who what them. (similar to non-profits). Mandatory dues are way too high and a crippling taxation added to the cost of living which could for force older residents from their homes. I am against this kind of taxation and dues should not be raised without a vote; also, the projects and use of increase should be decided by VOTE.

The Innis Arden Club now has a guaranteed income by virtue of the Mandatory Dues Amendment. This income will form the basis of the Club's ability to borrow funds to invest in improvements. The club can be remodeled into the finest private club in the Shoreline area, the equal of the Seattle Golf, Tennis or Yacht Clubs. I suggest that club facilities featuring meeting, lounge, dining, health and game rooms be built. The swimming pool and tennis court can be enclosed and be used year around as an amenity for all Club members. This facility would be an attraction for Club members and could provide an income if facilities are rented for private social functions. A caterer, such as Dale's Deli, could be contracted to provide food and drink for attending members or for social functions hosted by others. Further, I suggest that a limited number of memberships be sold to people who are not IA residents. These memberships will increase in value over time and as they are sold to succeeding new members. The resale price of these non-resident memberships will establish the value of membership included with IA homes as they are sold. This will RAISE THE VALUE of all homes that are sold with a membership attached.

There are trees blocking out view and this is very stressful. We need community assistance in having Mr.. & Mrs. XXXX,. to cooperate and cut their trees. (11 are 100 feet higher than roof!). These trees not only block our view but represent a clear danger to people and property if they fall. The Board and association may incur liability. In any event they are a gross violation of the precious covenants that the Board enforces selectively on remodel and shed construction, etc.

Q13 - I would donate $ to a fund. Q14 - Board apply the rules after neighbors have talked .. If Board can't solve, then go to master on building arbitration. Q15 - Send postcard that it's out so I remember. Q17 - Speed bumps are round bouts. Mainly for fire and ambulances because people do not know how to drive around/over them. Q19 - As safe as anywhere without side walks. Q20 - If people use common sense and walk on the wider of the 2 sides they'd be fine. Q23 - Break it into 2 or 3 sections. The first being the easy to pass and continue on. Q24 - Advertising by residents only like it was.

Is the board going to allow un-biased people go over the results of this survey??

An awful lot of money can be spent on the clubhouse area & I think we need to balance this against the larger group who don't use these facilities at all.

We are definitely interested in restoring views, views, views!

The mandatory dues are way too high and are a crippling taxation added to the cost of living. The future amount of dues is solely up to the board and the board will must likely use this as a hammer to force old time residents on fixed incomes out of IA. I am adamantly against allowing the Board this kind of taxing power. The Board is a community club not the government.

Keep the trees there cut low to maintain the view. Add a nicer barrier and some beaches. (Maybe with name plaques sponsored by neighbors). The Jersey barriers were put up quickly to discourage parking cars there, particularly a van engaged in drug sales. A permanent, more attractive solution should be found, and view there preserved. Right now homeowners are cutting the trees and leaving them in a leap.

You let the xxxx build a house that out over north view 5 feet because it's 5 feet farther north then there previous house; that it's taller and ugly and out of place style wise. It remains out of business building in downtown Edmonds. We can't do a thing about it now?

We have lived in Innis Arden for 26+ years. The I.A. Club has been of very little help to us. Boeing Creek has been allowed to erode our property at the back until we were forced to put in a very costly rockery - which we did in expectation that would care for it, but during the big wash out much of it was demolished. At one club meeting I attended it was decided the bank behind us would be cared for and xxxx property did get some work done but we were poor informed that was all halted. Hidden lake was restored but nothing was done on south bank that is now sliding into the creek, we cannot touch it. So we are not thrilled over the "Club." Ill health & old age have us at a stand still -

Thank you for the effort.

This survey (in my opinion) could have been vastly improved simply by asking the questions people want answered. What has happened is that very little real opportunity has been offered to the citizens of Innis Arden to truly have a voice. So there's two ways to look at this. First, the board now has so little information to work with they could pretty much do whatever they want, or second the board can try to guess about what the IA citizens think is really important. I'm disappointed, we could have done a lot better ...

Let's enforce the covenants that we have and focus our energies on traffic issues and the safety of our neighbors. It is tragic that we do not feel it is safe for our children to ride bikes in their own neighborhood. Both of us, on two separate occasions have almost been hit by speeding cars.

Here is an example of how our view covenant ought to work: Seattle Times Sunday, 02/03, 2002: Home Forum/Elizabeth Rhodes. What's it worth to chop down trees for your neighbor's view? Q: A neighbor behind me has asked to cut down some of my trees and give him a view easement. He's willing to pay for the work, plus give me an amount based on the value the view will add to his property. Is it possible to give him a view easement, and if so, how do we figure what it's worth? A: "View easements are quite common and can be quite valuable," says attorney Brian Lawler, of Lawler Burroughs and Baker. To protect both you and your neighbor, this easement "has to be sufficiently precise and non-ambiguous to allow a third person (such as a judge) to determine the scope of the easement without guesswork," Lawler counsels. For example, he says a poorly crafted version would read something like "an easement across Joe Smith's property for the purpose of viewing Puget Sound." But that leaves a lot to guesswork, like from where on the property, from what angle and at what height? "The best approach is to use ascertainable reference points, using property corners or lines to establish a base elevation and then a height limit in reference to the elevation," Lawler says. As for valuing the easement, the most professional way would be to hire an appraiser, who likely would consider the quality of the view, the impact of this easement on the benefiting property and the burden, if any, it places on your property. Two obvious benefits to your neighbor: higher enjoyment and a potentially higher sales price. Potential burdens to you: The removal of privacy, enjoyment and value if these trees go. Arborists say mature trees can add $10,000 or more to a home's worth. You'll want to have an attorney draw up this easement.

The pool house. Larger, more updated locker rooms.

Thanks!

The lighting in parts of Innis Arden is terrible.

The discretionary dues ($52,000 already collected) should either be used to reduce the following years dues or returned to members. (As other community clubs do). The club should only collect dues that reflect the fixed cost amount. Why does everyone have to subsidize all of the luxury features of IA that are only used by a minority of the members - the majority supporting the minority. The people who use the facility, service, and various activities or features of IA should be the ones to pay, individually. The mandatory dues are way too high and are a crippling taxation added to the cost of living. The future amount of dues is sorely up to the board and the board will most likely use this to force out old time residents of IA on fixed incomes. I am adamantly against allowing the board this kind of taxation power for it is a community club and not a government.

Trees are on issue that pales in controversy 2 degree to remodels. The covenant regards trees is very clear the not enforced. The covenant regards remodels is very unclear and enforcement varies dramatically.

Previous Block watch experience as Captains was very disappointing due to very little participation of neighbors.

Lighten up the verbiage on the first dues statement.

Q13 - We feel it would be impossible to allocate costs equitably among homeowners. Q17 - What about increased police presence, or hiring security patrols. Q14 - The reserves (and the Board) should be subject to same requirements as homeowners.

Thank you to Board and community members who dedicate themselves & time to preserving views, fostering a friendly and family oriented community. We feel safe here - that is also critical.

We do not have DSL access for our computers in our area 13th NW. How can we as a community get DSL, public Radio reception, etc. Would appreciate the Board to work to get these and other services into our area. Thank you for your hard work.

Provide - info packet to new members. I was here 18 month before getting key to the beach and finding clubhouse and pool.

We appreciate that our current covenant is not highly restrictive, and our dues are relatively low, and are interested in keeping it that way. We are concerned about the possibility of elaborate "east-side" type covenants. Also, regarding the view issue - we think it is likely that more clear wording of guidelines may help prevent misunderstandings, but we would rather they not change in meaning. Perhaps some mention could be included that when trees are taken down/out it is because (owners & they) are honoring the covenant, so that other parties nearby won't take such offense (the "other side" of one situation).

Unfortunately this is a very limited survey with very obvious emphasis on view restoration and traffic safety, clearly the preferred interests of these who wrote the survey. What a shame! "Community" has the potential for so much more than gazing out a window or feeling safe. What about an emphasis on book clubs, discussion groups, family sports, etc. Wouldn't these activities build a strong community? We need to "get over" the view and safety staff and more on to becoming a real community. Can the Board not help us do this?

No speed bumps.

Pertaining to Q14. - The Board needs to come to concerns as to what a "view" actually is & be consistent in needing.

I believe the Board should publish clear and objective guidelines on new house and remodels, enforce them (e.g. height, roof pitch, building lines) and rely less on subjective objections of neighbors related to view obstruction. The current process strikes me as coming close to violating property rights -- So long as objective guidelines are followed by the owner doing the construction, and definitely breeds animosity among neighbors.

Remodeling Pool House (locker rooms, office, except kitchen) or rebuild adding a hot tub.

We have no control over the world issues, economic cycles, fraudulent activities that effect many of our investments. People specifically invest in view homes in I.A. because the covenants were designed to protect their investment. The importance of protecting those covenants must be the primary focus of this community.

Thanks for this questionnaire.

1st - Thank you for all your work and for taking the time to do this survey. Our family realizes all of you invest hundreds of hours - again thank you. 2nd - In any group endeavor - not everyone can be happy - if we can just make chances in a relatively quick time frame, be clean, and move on. Times have changed - people are busier, I think IA needs to focus on fewer activities and less calls for volunteering. Lets just do a couple community things and leave it at that.

We moved to the I.A. development in part due to its covenants and continuity i.e. no trailers, boats or junk stored in view or driveways. However, we have found that lately the covenants have only worked to protect those owners with a water view. There are several homes in violation with "boats, cars and junk" in view or even on lawns. To sight one in particular has several junk cars stored on the lawn. This is quite an eye sore. Of course this is only one of many such covenant violations in IA which should be of concern to the Board (not just view preservation).

I think the board does a good, probably thankless job overall - As a 25 years resident I.A. is by large a pleasant place to live. My main problem is speed limit enforcement & unsightly toys parked in view. I would like a directory addition listing ====

Tough job - no matter what you do about 1/2 the residents are happy and 1/2 mad at you!! I'm glad you guys do it and not me!!!

Thanks for all of your hard work!

Thank you for all your hard work! Well thought out survey.

Sidewalks in I.A. is a high priority for us. Maintenance of reserves is also a high priority, in the sense that they are maintained for community use with trails and healthy ecosystem. View maintenance is a secondary consideration for our family.

Improve the path around the field. Allow garage sales in I.A.. At child events, there is minimal opportunity to meet new people. The events feel very insular with people talking only to those they know. How about more meet/greet "Get to know your community) events - with activities that allow neighbors to meet new neighbors."

Rewrite covenants - by a professional. Rules for the Board, for view corridor(s), night lights (floods), sound, building materials, landscaping.

Until everyone is required to comply with view covenants, legally recognized in court then this neighborhood will always be unpleasant in the extreme. There should be fines required for those who do not recognize court orders. Individuals have had to personally take on huge legal bills with absolutely no support from the board. Having a board that changes from not supporting views to being unable to act is pointless.

Separate forum of candidates for board positions with the community before election time. Board should hold open house at least once a year to socialize with residents. Conduct a demographic study of residents - (age, sex, occupation, ethnicity). Organization of small block parties - get to know your neighbor.

Please do not sell out our reserves for the benefit of those people who do not live in I.A.

Sidewalks/sidewalks/sidewalks. View preservation re: trees/remodels.

How about mandatory rules for keeping up your property! Example: on 167th. There are others that look just as trashy. Restoring views are important but so is cleaning up those properties that are total eyesores! I would also love to see the entrance completely redone, professionally, not just with leftover plants from peoples yards. It's a mess during the 32 years that we have lived here, its always been a mess! Thank you.

Thank you very much for taking the time and trouble to draw up, send out, and collect these questionnaires.

The walking paths in the green belt areas are overgrown & very dark. I no longer feel safe walking in these areas.

Since most residents are affected by reserve trees, this appears set up to favor action in reserves paid for by all dues - since those residents, of course, will want the rest of us to pay. Data should be broken out by whether or not respondent is affected by reserves.

4 homeowners on (this block NW 167th St) have more then lost $40,000 dollars since 1999-2001 in property value, due to 1 neighbor closest to the water, that will not abide to the covenants. (What's the use???!). (The tree huggers need a JOB!). Roger and Kate are doing fine - we support you. We tried over and over. Please help us. We want to see the sunsets again! Thanks.

During Board meetings when discussing remodels etc, the Board must insist that those opposing refrain from calling their neighbors liars, cheats, lacking integrity and otherwise insulting neighbors. I have been appalled by the comments of a certain community member towards their neighbors. Allowing these people to chair committees means there are a lot of people who won't participate.

We are very concerned about the unsafe streets due to open ditches and lack of safe walking spaces and speeding cars. We are disappointed covenants are not enforced pertaining to oversized vacation vehicles and boats permanently. neighbors who are unable to maintain their yards/property should be given notice and then after a certain period of time the board should take action. Blue Heron reserve is very unsafe and is frequented by many people who are not from IA. Party goers park there and dump their garbage - beer and cigs. fast food wrappings. A fence system would be welcome.

I feel the people were elected property. Thanks for all you do!

Community money should not pay for view restoration or view management. The covenants are why we bought here and they should not be updated. Everyone here has bought a house knowing the rules governed by the covenants. Any rule change may benefit some at the expense of others. Also rule changes will be subject to new interpretations challenged in court without the benefit of residence.

Thanks for doing this survey. I think the Board focus is on amenities that are used by a minority (but heavy users) of residents: playfield, pool, clubhouse. Board efforts and community dues need to be focused more on issues that impact the majority of residents: reserves, views, clear covenants, traffic safety. The Board should evaluate who benefits from expenditures and whether they are cost effective rather than making a decision to fine a solution. I would like to participate in meetings more but they are SO long and inefficient. I'd like to see a better way to take community comments outside of the meeting and limit the comment period during the meeting. I'd like to see the most global agenda items dealt with the earliest in the meeting.

Thank you for this. Please find a way to assist homeowners in maintaining their views without undue time and process. I believe creating new views is a different matter and is not protected by the covenants.

Designated bike lane Avenue. Richmond Beach to Shoreline Community College, to be paid for by city.

Instead of seeking ways do spend the increased revenue from mandatory dues the board should consider lowering the dues.

Keep the monorail at the playground make the see-saw bigger.

This is a beautiful area because of our views and the surrounding trees. Tree maintenance needs to be maintained to preserve our views. Leveling trees to create views for homes that never had them should be expensed to the owner. Individual home up keep needs to be enforced, it's a crime to be taxed and to go to the expense and effort to keep your own home and yard presentable and have your neighbors home look run down. There are a small number of prestigious neighborhoods in the Seattle area. IA should be one of those. The IA Board appears to be a band aid board, little direction with no vision for our neighborhood in the next 10 years, but with this survey it looks like maybe things are changing. Good show.

The number one problem is the traffic speed and disregard for all rules. Before the city was formed King County did have a limited enforcement of traffic laws. However once the City of Shoreline took over it appears that all of this disappeared. Now when I drive 25 mph on IA Streets I get passed. Most drivers roll right through stop signs. About 3/4 of the driver do not stop for the stop sign at NW 175th and 15th Ave. NW. Cars traveling eastbound on 175th going down the hill and past the retention pond at 6th Ave. NW are often, in the early morning, doing 35-40 mph. The county used to have radar set up at NW 175th and 3rd Ave. NW which helped some what but the city does not do this. We are walkers. It should not be a dangerous activity but in the City of Shoreline it is. The city needs to step up to the plate!

We purchased our property in 1955 and had a wonderful view of the sound and mountains. It was our understanding we would always have the view and that our house plans had to be approved by some committee before we could build, that we would not obstruct any ones view. Today we have no view of the sound and mountains. We, along with neighbors, have topped and cut trees to maintain our view only to have it obstructed by the trees in the reserves. The view we had when we decided to live in IA was and still is most important to us.

Views, whether they be sweeping, partial or minimal are of prime importance to many I.A. residents. Blocked views devalue properties considerably and can have an effect on non-view properties as well. A special master could be a tremendous help.

Enforce boat storage on property!! Also campers, and autos not regularly driven. Our neighbor has had huge boat stored in front yard for 2 years!!

This survey is a great idea to ensure that everyone has an opportunity to voice their ideas and priorities for the neighborhood. Thank you for going to all this work. We look forward to seeing the results.

Will write a separate letter regarding homes being used for BUSINESS in a strictly residential area - C.C. will be sent to the City of Shoreline - Those of us who are 25+ year members of this community do not like the "New leaf" of new board members and new residents - too much leniency on new structures, etc.

Obviously a "Tree cutting" group. Your overall approach - deceptive - will only undermine your credibility, in a way, the rest of us are lucky that you are so biased and strategic - average resident can smell a rat and say NO when it became necessary.

Re: question 14 - I think the "view" issue is not resolvable. I can't imagine an activity involving court action, arbitration, etc. improving relationships. Issues of the value of seeing trees vs. seeing water aside, a covenant that allows the purchaser of a property with no "view" or an obstructed "view" to force neighbors to remove landscaping for his pleasure and possible financial gain on subsequent sale of his now "view" property is insupportable. Although I'd much prefer to see the reserves untouched, and have worked to that end, the endless effort, time, and money spent on trying to protect the reserves over the nearly two decades. We've lived here again lead me to believe this issue is not resolvable so here is a modest proposal: abolish dues, sell the reserves for development, put the proceeds in a trust to finance community infrastructure and simply move the burden of resolving all these issues to the market.

I'm too old to make relevant answers to these questions.

We are pleased that the Board is becoming more view oriented.

I would like to see enforcement of removing the old pieces of equipment and now running cars from the front yards of the houses - especially on the south side of I.A. and 167th etc.

I think it's time for a look at the mail box situation. i.e.: Locked mail boxes at end of each street? Eliminating the boxes would accomplish a 2 goals positive - 1. Enhance the street, 2. Safe mail. "Thank you" to the many hours & folks that did this questionnaire.

Re #23 - Publish a detailed, section by section analysis of the need for any revision.

Even though long time older residents resist changes and the corresponding costs, the reality is that the market to get maximum value for home equity is the young higher income persons. They expect a value for the size of the invested funds. This can only be accomplished by an attitude of compromise. That involves accepting the fact that even if not personally important the quality and attractiveness of IA is dependent on a diversity of positive inducements for living here!

Dues are for maintaining, improving & installing new & existing community resources. The "view" from a particular property lot is NOT a community resource. It is disturbing to see question 13 on this document. This implies that the Board is entertaining the notion of using community funds for "improving" views for particular privately held lots. This is exactly analogous to using community funds to pay for home improvement projects.

Get more professional watch City of Shoreline meeting on TV duplicate setup and procedures

Clubhouse dues are now mandatory. The IA covenants were exclusive for white, Christian persons. The community gatherings hosted in the clubhouse which is maintained with mandatory dues should be NEUTRAL and available for all IA residents (i.e.. Secular). The signs posted in December for a family Christmas party are disturbingly prejudice. Please, host gatherings for all IA residents, a simple change to a winter community party with secular songs & activities is a progressive & equitable change.

The Board is putting too much emphasis on view rather than on other items to benefit all residents and property owners.

Could we abolish the covenants altogether? And let all homeowners work out their problems one on one or with the city? This survey is questionable at best ... It really needs questions about how long residents have lived here, worth of house, age of residents, type of family: retired, single mom/dad, how many kids etc. IA I, II, or III, then you can create cross tabs of info and look at the data in different ways ... Then you would be able to see "retiree's feel this way, new residents feel that way etc.

I was on the board when we took the ceiling off the fee, and we raised it to $100. Now, it had doubled as predicted. Our taxes are extremely high now. There must be a balance, a plan, and steady (controlled) progress.

Thank you for all your efforts!

The boards inability to deal with the City of Shoreline concerning the management if the reserves needs to be improved. We as a community should demand (through our board) that they be responsive to our request for reserve management.

Some thing's, like the pool and playgrounds, are not important to me personally, but I think they are important for the community overall and I'm willing to support them with my dues. We don't use the clubhouse except to attend meetings occasionally, so I'm not aware if it is really adequate or not for swim meets, etc. If the kitchen and shower areas need upgrading I would be in favor of supporting that.

It would be prudent to "revisit" the issue of signage: 1. For sale signs (of homes). 2. "One-day" garage sale signs. 3. Need to enforce parking rules.

I bought my lot in 1950 and I had a very nice view when I moved in 1952. My property has been devalued $40,000 due to loss of view because of trees on neighbors property and reserve there was a time I could stand and see if tide was in or out from my back yard not any more.

Please remember and be guided by the fact that we all pass through I.A. in so very few years, and that this land and its natural life were here before and will endure long after - if we are wise and kink. Selfish interests and actions can also endure, to our shame.

The sidewalk need is imperative! The neighborhood looks unfinished, but could be a true model neighborhood with the addition of sidewalks! Who can we light a fire under to get this subject discussion moving?

I believe this questionnaire leans heavily towards residence with view or potential view properties. I would like to see any money (dues) that are collected to go towards projects that benefit everyone whether its monetarily or just plain better living for our children. We need to make I.A. a more desirable place for young children to hang out and play at the park. If any trees need to be maintained - its down at the park. So kids are seen playing.

Thank you for all the work involved in putting this survey together. It is much appreciated.

Thanks to those who volunteer their time!

The various issue appears to be the most sensitive issue. A "view" is not limited to a view only of the matter, it also should include mountains, trees, and territorial aspects. Some residents do not appear to be inclined to maintain their plantings according to the limits of the covenants. - as did some residents respond to payment of dues, could preservation of views somehow be made mandatory?

Been a beautiful, friendly place to live. I plan to remain as long as the "good Lord" gives me the health to handle 14 step between floors. (And I don't poison myself with my own cooking).

The reserves and views can coexist. This issue urgently needs to be solved - it is splitting this community and making it an unattractive place to live. Thank you!

Activities for children need to be encouraged & supported by I.A. but don't need to necessarily be organized by I.A. (examples: Allowing Hillwood Soccer & Richmond Little League to rent fields at/or below cost; allowing Sunset to use Boeing Creek Trail, etc. are things that should be encouraged.). Activities/interest groups for the residents of IA can also be encouraged/supported but again don't need to be organized by IA Board (ex. Bridge Clubs, Book group, etc., can advertise in Bulletin and use club house.). This was a great survey! Thank you!

Thanks for putting out this community survey. Hope we get a really good response. It covers the issues which we feel are very important.

Trees in the green belt owned by the King County are obstructing view. We would like the Board to talk to the county about possibility of solving this problem. Get some interest and be more helpful to the senior residents especially those who live alone.

Explore possibilities of making IA a gated community or several small gated area. i.e.. - specific streets.

Please uphold the covenants.

Do whatever it takes to strengthen and enforce the view covenants. Some neighbors say they will top their view-blocking trees, but never follow through with their promises!

I think this survey is a great idea and I hope the response is strong.

Our major issues are - View preservation. Clubhouse & pool house Important. Traffic problem - speeding. Entrance and road beautification.

Board needs to collect dues from everyone. Board needs to put an end to tree & reserve issue been decided in court and with existing covenants. If trees are a problem they must come down! Board take a stand, quit pitting neighbor against neighbor.

Do not allow residents to park boats, campers or motor homes in their driveway or on the street. Allow residents to have posted "For sale" signs. A large percentage 25% sell as a result of a sign in the yard. More expensive areas allow signs (i.e.: Woodway, Blue Ridge, Windermere, Laurelhurst). This covenant is outdated and affects the price that sellers get - particularly in a slow market. Residents who don't maintain their houses or yards should have a penalty assessed against them.

The Board needs to recognize there are some seniors and/or widows living here that cannot spend on limited dollars for increased dues and major projects. We do not want to be priced out of our homes.

Police patrols had been discussed at some recent Board meetings - when are they on the survey?

IA is a sound and mountain view community from the beginning. It should be maintained as such. If anyone objects, just look at the tapes. We noticed most of the objectionable trees are growing behind the homes of those who want to keep them - away from their view.

Please do not improve access at Boeing Creek without a concurrent increase in gate security. I'd prefer an electronic card system that logs who goes in and out. In the summer time people are making all sorts of noise down there virtually every Friday and Saturday night until early AM. other days of the week sporadically.

I would just like to thank you for all the words you do to benefit this neighborhood. I walk my dog everyday through this beautiful community. Over the past five years, I have come to appreciate this area more each day. Sidewalks would be a major improvement for the safe of safety.

If a revision of the covenants could in any way dilute or impair the view covenants (remodel restrictions or neighbors tree height consideration), we would not want to chance it. Upholding the view covenants is huge for us. We grew up in Edmonds and have family in Richmond Beach - We know what can happen to views without covenants.

Thank you for taking time do this survey. We appreciate the Boards efforts, dedication and time.

Our children are grown and we did not live here when they were young. The answers about pool, playground etc are marked accordingly. We do however recognize a need to have and maintain for the benefit of IA. A warm thanks to the Board for their fine efforts, and contributions to make our community a better place.

Sidewalk expresses should be assessed of the entire IA community, not just bordering property.

That notice re: mandatory dues was obnoxious to someone who has regularly paid dues for 30 years. Should only have been sent to people who have not paid dues and published in the paper.

Thank you. We appreciate the chance to respond.

We are senior citizens most interested in having and maintaining a nice place to live and swim.

1) Determine if our covenants are now enforceable since previous boards at their discretion have broken the covenants 100's of times? 2) Is Innis Arden and the covenants in compliance with the Washington State GMA (Growth Management Act). 3) Lets see action - not talk. However everyone who resides here is not wealthy - so let's keep our dues and expenditures within a reasonable budget and within covenant rules!

Covenants that prohibit the following: 1) No vehicles which are dilapidated and do not function allowed on any property. 2) No storage tents or housing for same purpose in public view. 3) No construction materials in public view during a building project.

Do not take actions that pit one neighbor against another, and cause disruptions and legal entanglements in the neighborhood.

How about instituting an Innis Arden email list for important notices. I think the traffic issue is very important to quality of life. We need safer streets! Re: the tree issue - why not just send out a simply worded reminder of our responsibility to our neighbors and encourage people to talk about disagreements openly and clearly, would think that would address a significant proportion of issues.

My greatest desire would be to turn the building at the swimming pool (or the club house) into a very attractive and larger building. Both families and seniors use the pool and yet the building is so small and outdated. My most important issue would be to update the pool area into an inviting environment! Or, to update the clubhouse, that would be used with the pool.

Thanks for all your hard work.

The trend to legislate problems and increased legal focus is wrong. Much better to accept differences and promote co-operation.

Dues are insufficient to support our 50 year old community. Leash laws need enforcement. More police presence for traffic and vandalism issues. Greater positive relationship with city. City to take responsibility for upstream water that creates erosion problems. No fireworks - 100% compliance with city law. Increased police patrols summers and weekends in reserves and at "private" beach access points. City needs to do more roadside maintenance of overhanging trees. Stop watering playfield during summer months and support water reduction recommendations by Water District. Eliminate the use of fertilizers, etc. for a healthier environment, children, pets and wildlife alike. Allow annual garage sale. Not everyone wishes to contribute their things. Mill Creek does a marvelous job. Not allowing house for sale signs is ridiculous! Thank you - I'm looking forward to the board taking strong action and getting our views back!

The traffic issue should be addressed with force as our children are at risk as all pedestrians/bike riders

I would caution the Board to be very careful and thoughtful regarding tree removal and or topping. The trees maintain soil stability, provide oxygen, clean air, beauty and the natural way the land should be. Messing with "Mother Nature" as proven to be very unwise with many negative consequences.

This survey has been great! One of the best attempts the board has made to hear how all of its residents feel, a great step! Good questions. I will look forward to seeing the published answers.

Speed limits on some streets of 25 mph are too slow. Ridgefield Road, past the clubhouse, etc. should be at least 30 or even 35. Strong suggestions should be made in the bulletin for walkers, joggers, etc. to move off the street for traffic. I see some walkers and joggers using over 3 feet of the roadway (and feeling it is their right).

Enforce all the 10 covenants equally, do not just pick and choose which covenant to enforce and which to ignore.

I find it interesting that dues were $100 for years. Institute mandatory dues and they go up to $200. Attorneys fees in budget from $5,000 to $20,000!!! $500/year is to come soon. I refrained from paying dues for years as I did not want to fund or enable all the petty squabbles over roof heights and trees. When I needed the support of the "Club" my area of Innis Arden was ignored.

View-blocking trees should be cut to roof level and maintained by the owner of the property on which the tree has grown. We wish there was a way to strongly encourage neighbors to make some effort to keep their lawns, etc. cut, trimmed and weed free. Many streets are plagued with a few who simply "don't care"; it's a devaluation of the property of others and very inconsiderate. Perhaps it would be an encouragement to publicly recognized, by bulletin comments, the beauty of their property so that we can all enjoy them.

Thanks for all your help!

How can all of these items be paid for? Dues will have to increase. We can't get residents to pay the current dues.

Thank you!

Equal and consistent covenant enforcement - Residents living in Innis Arden 2 or 3 (on the Board) can pass judgment and take legal action against a homeowner living in Innis Arden 1 for any covenant violation. If the Board, with members from all 3 IA sections, has sovereignty over all homeowners, it should exert the same consistent vigor in passing judgment and taking legal action against any IA homeowner who is not in compliance. Your survey's view-obstruction "neighbor" label is part of the bureaucratic process promoted by the anti-view minority that adds to the problems within this neighborhood. Innis Arden traffic - Stop signs, more speed limit signs, and speed bumps will not work because they will be ignored. The Innis Arden shortcut is promoted by county and city, virtually police-free, traffic light-free, and too exciting a speed course to pass up. Either address the issue of gates/barriers at one or two IA entrances, or live with the speeding issue and the unforeseen consequences of any proposed remedy.

Thank you for trying to solicit input. The Board can't change the behavior of people who will use any method to get their way (e.g. trees cut from neighbors' property). The more the Board tries to do, the more people like that will use the Board to achieve their desired outcome. Stay out of the tree issue!

-Clubhouse facilities and function should be re-assessed to make both the benefits and costs relevant and accessible to a broader spectrum of IA resident interests. 
-Rewriting covenants would likely be a very controversial endeavor.  We don’t think it would be a good idea to open that “pandoras box”.
-Traffic is predominantly a Shoreline issue.  Encouraging Shoreline to enforce existing traffic laws would be useful.
-The survey questions about views are in some cases based on premises that can’t be assumed and don’t provide adequate options on all sides of the issue.  This reflects a bias that we’re uncomfortable with and so we can’t simply choose an option as our answer.